1. Is anybody else having trouble moving the Sheriff right at start? It says to drag him to under the red arrow but I can't make him move.
2. Only one hour seems a ludicrously short time to evaluate a program.

Actually, you should right-click the mouse button, NOT left-click when dragging a person. That should have been noticed when they made the game.

I can't drag the mine I am suppose to build onto the map to add it close to the gold vain. It's just not working, even though I am in the green. *sigh*

It might be from the controls. I always check options before I play a game, and, without knowing much about this one, messed around with the "invert mouse" control. It doesn't invert movement controls, it inverts buttons.

In the options menu is a setting to "invert mouse". The reverses the function of the left and right mouse buttons. Depending on how this is set, the tutorial may or may not match the correct clicks. See which setting you prefer, and remember that if the instruction doesn't work, just use the other button.

Oh, and this game is quite buggy, unfortunately...

Make sure you're playing version 1.02 or later.

You can download the latest version (v1.02) of this game by using the links on this page.

The game ran quite stable on my computer. I had no errors whatsoever. The graphics are done nice, and the total atmosphere is done nicely kinda wild west.

Compared to Virtual Villagers. VV is better! Westward is technically done well, but it somehow misses "the magic". You get tasks you have to do, you don't really just discover. Strategically its too easy for me taste, you never have to retry using better tactics, you can do pretty well with very bad "tactics".

It didn't like the interface of moving characters by drag/drop. Its nasty, espeically as you can't effectively control movements over bigger distances. Right click to move would have been better. I disliked not having a mini-map onscreen all the time, like you usually have in games like these, as well as already mentioned the otherwise widely used keybord-group-select-shortcuts.

The gameplay had a bit too much micro-management for my taste, which isn't too fun. The drunk people for example. Why can't the sheriff go automatically go for drunk people (if set so, and not on a halt position because of a military task)? Also sometimes people seem to autoapply for jobs, but often I saw them jobless standing next to a "help wanted" sign. I constantly had to assign people one by one. (A general stratetic setting which jobs to prefer for new assignments would be nice).

The game uses 4 ressources (water, food, money, wood). Which is quite a bit much, this really gets close to "the settlers" complexity with 6 ressources (money, wood, clay, stones, iron, sulfur). Altough the Water as ressource just isn't much noteworthy. Wells are very cheap, and you can built them everywhere. Fires are like drunks some thing to thicken gameplay, but its effecitevly not much that enhances your game experience.

BTW: the game doesn't terminate after one hour. So if you keep going, it seems you can finish the game in one go, if you have the stamina. I exited after "hope river" (with sidequests) 'cause I had seen it, and it didn't manage to exite me much.

In summery, it ain't really a good strategy game, it ain't really a good economic simulation, it ain't really a good discovery adventure, it ain't really cute to just watch. It got from everything a bit, but in no dimension anything exceptional.

Yup, nice idea but definitely lacking in execution, I think. The art's nice, the atmosphere is very well done, but the interface needs work.

For example - drag and drop to move? Why? Once you've selected whoever you want, the whole "drag" part is redundant. You should just be able to click where you want them to go - a lot faster, and much easier if you want to send them somewhere off the screen. And of course there's no group assignment, so you can't jump to particular people either.

Then, not enough automation of basic things - I heard gunshots, had to manually pan around for half a minute before I found the bandits, then had to select my gunslingers (thankfully there IS a shortcut button for that), then drag them over to where the bandits were. Annoying.

Like grid, I ended up playing through Hope River and its sidequests, then quit.

The "Oregon Trail" educational simulation game http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oregon_Trail_%28computer_game%29 might be considered as a significantly superior alternative IMHO.

@ Matt... *slaps herself on the forehead* Oooh... I did click on the 'inverted mouse' option. Now I know why I have to use the 'wrong' mouse button. Thanks for reminding me. :)

How do you build the bridge. I'm having a lot of problems, please help

Virtual Villagers isn't the best comparison; it's almost antithetical to Westward. Where VV was about gently guiding your villagers to solve puzzles and build up over a long period of time, Westward is about micromanaging your resources and hoping a random bandit attack doesn't level your town in the first 10 minutes with no means of recourse. Even the controls are dichotomous with each other: VV allowed you to pick up anyone and drag them right where you needed, while Westward makes them walk the path you trace (poorly).
These completely different control schemes are ironic symbols of the philosophical divide between both games. While VV's direct transportations were contrasted with "intelligent" randomness in your villagers, Westward's indirect control scheme is pitted against the manual assignment of villagers to tasks, the direct way in which you pick and choose buildings to create as a form of strategy.

Westward mimics the control schemes of modern RTS games such as Blizzard's Star/WarCraft games, Age of Empires, etc. And it has a lot of heart and style, trying to create the fantastic image of the Wild Wild West. I appreciate that they are trying to create a casual gaming environment, but sometimes I feel as if the authors of this game have only read about RTS games instead of actually playing them. The controls can be unwieldy, especially in combat, the random events are frustrating, and resource management is ... wow.

Also I'm in Pleasant Falls or something and I keep on restarting because bandits keep on attacking me after way too little time, and there's no wood and I can't gather enough resources to build a Saloon. No game should do that to its players :(

Argh this was really long, sorry I get excited about these things :)

@Zach: "only read about RTS games instead of actually playing them" - spot on! I was thinking along the same lines, but you've articulated it very well. It's basically the poorly implemented RTS elements that annoy so much, specially when you're used to the brilliantly intuitive controls of games like Warcraft 3...

I have had a number of problems with this game. I tried to download and install at home and got an unpacking error 5-11. At work, the game seemed to play fine until I got to some of the smaller side missions. For some reason, when the side missions start my window changes from full screen to a smaller version which removes my saved games and prevents me from being able to save again. I think I have completed the Russian valley mission twice now. Not too happy with the $20 I spent on this game.

Glomer - if you purchased the game from us (ArcadeTown), don't forget they offer a money back guarantee. I would rather you get your money back than be unhappy with your purchase.

I'm really enjoying Westward, despite its sometimes irritating interface - yes, it does get tedious having to drag everything around the map and cycle through characters; then again, the maps aren't that big, and I like the way you find new sub-tasks with sub-maps as you go. I also like that it is simple. You can do the wrong thing, and lose, so it is worth saving as you go.

However, I'm stuck - if anyone can tell me how to get to the Wong saloon up north to destroy it, I'd be very grateful! I have gone over every bit of the map I can get to, and have no other tasks outstanding, but I just cannot see what to do to get there. Tried dynamiting the fencing on the bluff to see if that would blow the bluff up and let me up there, no good. Help, anyone? thanks!

If the Wong saloon is the one I'm thinking of (the level where you have the rabbit find what's down the hole)then you have to place that tornado looking irragation thing on the bluff bit

I'm having problems getting past "Defending the Bank" part. It says I have to defend the bank until 15 people come to live. I have about 35 now. What's the deal?

I'm trying to put the posse back together and I can't find any chickens to kill! Is this is a bug or did I miss a step?

No it's not a bug, there is a guy you have to find who has the chickens.

I too am stuck on the Defend the bank task. Any one else stuck with the game long enough to get this far. Help.

Leigh, thanks for the tip!!! I'll do that right away.

Folks, I was having trouble defending the bank, too - you need to repair the saloon, put someone to work there & buy gunslingers. Buy LOTS of gunslingers, whenever you can! I found food a problem but got a farm going eventually. Then you just... keep going, killing bandits & their camp, until there are enough people in the town.

I am stuck on the one where you have to collect 300 x gold, 300 x wood and 30 food. I was totally enjoying playing this game untill I got to this level cause I stoped playing it for over a week then picked it up again last night to try and get past it. It is sooooooo hard.

Has anyone got this far to be able to help me out?

I have finished the game now, and enjoyed it despite the frustration of the characters just not going where you wanted them to... grrr...

on the 300/300/30 - it was very hard, I'm trying to remember what I did, but I concentrated on one thing at a time, trying hard to make food, that was really hard. I saved the resource as soon as I got to the total. I thing I used bridges quite a lot, and gold totted up on its own somehow in the later stage - or I sold wood for it - look around before building if you can, you can save resourced by finding damaged but savable buildings.

Yeah I've used hoards of bridges and uncovered all of the island. I've managed to get the food sorted but once I've found all the gold there's nowhere to make any more and there isn't enough trees around to keep the lumber yards going. Also I didn't find the guy that you're meant to find!

I wish someone would come up with a level select.......

I bought the game but can't activate my license. I don't know if this is a Yahoo problem or if I did something wrong. If I can't activate my License I would like my money back. Thanks

Dick - did you buy the game through the links here on this site? (We have an affiliate relationship with ArcadeTown).

Who was the sender of the email you received with the registration key on it? If you downloaded the game from one site and purchased it from another, that could lead to the problem you're having, but you haven't provided enough information for me to know that for sure.

I've just bought Westward after playing Virtual Villagers for a while and I like it a lot.

I only have two gripes. One is that I can't find my people easily in any mode and the other is that I'm finding it difficult to navigate around because I keep wanting to drag the "playing area" like I can with the one in VV.

I've tried clicking on and dragging the settlers to where I want them to go, but in some cases I can't drag them off the screen (especially to the top and bottom - it's better to the sides) and so I have to move them in little steps then zoom out, move the red square, zoom in again and try and find the settler I've been dragging. The only people who seem to be highlighted on the zoom out map are ones who can't be moved.

Apart from that, I'm enjoying playing it and I don't mind the micromanagement aspects of it - in some ways I prefer it. It's better than VV in that respect because it leaves a lot of the responsibility to the player so it makes it more interesting.

I actually loved the game! Finally, someone has created a western pc game to play. I have always loved western movies, and in the past decade or so, they are not even on television anymore. I'm sooooo sick and tired of reality t.v. shows, and stupid sitcoms that are not even funny. Likewise, I'm tiring fast of the same ole same ole pc games with monsters and medievil story lines.

What a breath of fresh air when Westward came out. I hope the gaming industry starts putting out more western type games, and not just linear mission play either. A western type sims game would be exellant, in which you can make your characters really interact with their environment, such as building camp fires, riding horses;working; fighting and surviving the harsh pioneer weather elements, etc... with side missions involved as well. Kind of like a Grand Theft AUTO and Sims type western game, where you can do much more then just straight missions all of the time.

Again, I love this Westward game. Thank you gaming companies... PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING!

where do you buy these kinds of cd for pc games called Oregon trail, West Ward and Virtual Villagers????????

i need help ?? i need to go up north but can't how do i go up north

I was wondering if anyone knows how to gain health or something. I'm trying to attack the last group of bandits to get my mayor, but my sheriff keeps on dying. What should I do?

Defend the Bank - I've defended the heck out of the bank. Got the population up to 35 but the challenge doesn't end. I eventually run out of resources (gold & wood) and then everything fails. The challenge states you only have to get the population up to 15 but it doesn't end whne you hit that number. I see a couple of other posts with the same problem but the only reply just says keep defending the bank. Not much help

I up to the level called some thing like Trappe Canyon
But my sheriff always dies on the third group of bandits
Help Please!

The problem I have with this game is like a bug. After the sheriff and deputies defeated the Bandits, the game takesx me back to the start instead of the continuation in Hope ville.

How do I tackle it? Or nis it just part of the game?

can someone help me please with the pieces of the map? i can find them!!! please ;;)

I am going insane with the "Where's Waldo" section. (the one with finding the mayor) I, too, cannot get my Sherriff to stay alive through the third set of robbers. I hve tried everything. Help.

I am having trouble with "Defend The Bank"...I have 39/39 towns people, the sheriff, 25 gunslingers and 25 deputies...I have destroyed the bandit camp, built every building, mined out the gold, cut down all the timber, I have a ranch and ac ouple farms, the bank is still going. What is the deal? How do you get out?

I have been trying to get get my Sheriff through the 3rd set of robbers and thus far been unsuccessful. I just now realized that you can go back to the "base camp", click on it, and hire more deputies and gunslingers. This will allow you to have the extra man power that you need.

Solution to Defend the Bank -
Blow up ALL parts of the bandit's camp BEFORE your pop reaches 15 and the game will end when you reach that population goal - Otherwise that section of the game will not end no matter how many peeps you have.

Hey i am stuck on the mission take you coverd wagon through the maze to stinky petes' ranch before you run out of food.Well i get there get all of the gold that is lyin around and everything i blew up the boulders and it will not let me turn my coverd wagon into the wagon camp.Pete tells me to put it whever i like, and when i click on him it says not yet or yes i cant click on yes can anyone help me on how to make my coverd wagon into the camp it tells me to. and it will not let me do anything else

This seems a really stupid thing to write, but I'm having trouble in Hope River trying to hire a sheriff....

in order to hire a sherrif u have to have a station... and enough gold ....or if im correct you had to build the ranch in order for the deputiy to become the sherrif ....so try building the racnh and then see what happens....i hope that helps...

I got it thanks anyway guys and girls:0)

i need help on Bandit traitor - sheriff is disguised and i should get that horse back but i have no idea how to do that. Help please

i just got past that what you have to do is make your way west and talk to the guy about his friend in the river then buy a bridge from the store save him. IM not sure if you did that but thats what u have to do there then you just have to follow your tasks if u didnt get all the way southwest over the river to the arrow u need to do that as well then you have to go back to the saloon and it will tell u that ur horse was stolen and you will know u talked to the right person it will ask you if you want to get on your horse now say okay and then take the girl and yourself back across the bridge to the arrow and there you go hope i helped you out enjoy.:0)

"Holy Run-on Sentences, Batman!"

For those who are having trouble with keeping your sheriff alive. If your sheriff is accompanied by deputies and gunslingers then have them do all the fighting and leave the sheriff behind. There will be several fights where you are told to make sure your Sheriff stays alive. Whenever that was the case, I made sure my sheriff stayed out of all the fighting.

I absolutely loved this game. I didn't have any bugs except once because I performed a task out of order and I guess the game didn't like that. However, I found the gameplay very fun and addictive. I also enjoyed the humor in the game.

The problem I have with this game is like a bug. After the sheriff and deputies defeated the Bandits, the game takes me back to the start instead of the continuation in Hope ville.

How do I tackle it? Or nis it just part of the game?

Ok. I am at the part where you are going after Wong dressed up like bandits. I have defeated them all and am at the Town Hall. I destroyed teh 2 gazebos and don't know what else to do. What is left for me to do in order to finish this mission?

Thanks. I was being a bit stupid is all. Got up to Lightning Bluff where they repair the train station and couldn't be bothered to go on.

The game's a good one though, can't deny that. If I wasn't so skint from all my christmas shopping I'd buy it.

Okay, I'm having trouble with getting my sherrif to take the 1,000 to get the one lady back (kiddnapped) and I can't find the treasure. I got the first part of the map and it said to look on the eastern bank of the twin waterfalls, but I dont see anything! and I can't figure out how to get my shrrif to take the money, am i supposed to move him to a certain place? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys! ^_^

I need help with the kidnapping. I can't find out where the kidnappers are. Please some one help me asap.

I reckon this is a pretty good game but im stuck on lightning bluff. i cant get enough gold to hire enought lawmen so i can defend myself from the bandits that attck. Please help!

To get by the bandits without getting your Sherrif killed, try hiring tons of gunslingers and deputies and make them do all the fighting. Keep making your sherrif stand behind and not fight...
Use up gold to hire them as soon as you get it - you dont need it for anything else anyway

I am at the part where you must figure out why the train isn't running. I have to attack 3 groups of bandits and a group of 5 gunmen without losing my sheriff. I have been stuck here for days because I CANNOT make it through alive. Does anyone have any tips for me? I appreciate it!

am having trouble with defeating wong can't keep my gun slingers alive and can't find enough gold to buy enough dynamite and a bridge to get over to the side of the water coz I can't kill all the bandits as I only have 2 gunslingers and the 2 im not suppose let get killed, lol HELP!! is there a walkthrough for this somewhere?

I need help...
im at lightning buff, i saved the sherrif, but now nothing is happening except for tornados and fires. nobody's attacking! The task says i have to defeats wongs hired goons. But i cant find any goons. I found the treasure and there isnt any black fog left on my map. im at 45 people with max population of 44... no hotels or churches are bringing up the maximum population!

Can someone tell me what to do? pleasseee?

Where do I find the rabbit to go down the hole in Lighting Bluff...I have been stuck forever! Thanks

Can anyone help me at the train station with the Sheriff and 3 deputies? I am supposed to move to the next level and my sheriff just keeps disappearing. What do I do now?

Kate,

the rabit is on the right side of the river... keep clearing fog till u see a man. he is the farmer. u need to buy a rabit from him.

Heather,

your sherrif is probably dying. you can save him by making your deputies do all the fighting. if he dies, it'll ask you to restart level if it doesnt ask you to do that, then he has just wandered off somewhere. you can find him by clicking on the gun in the bottom left of your screen.

I am having trouble finding the 3rd part of the tresure map. Look on the east bank of the twin waterfalls but I can't find it. Am I missing anything

Something really annoying keeps happening, I go to build something and it just gets demolished straight away, what am I doing wrong??

Hi everyone. I've fallen in love with the game so far but I am COMPLETELY stuck! I am in Hope River and I've finished all the tasks. I have no little "!" icons that may lead me to something new, there are NO tasks under the task menu, and I have explored every part of the map possible. I've blown things up trying to find some secret on how to move onto the next stage but I can't! The last task I remember doing was finding the treasure. I "rescued" the girl, I built the hotel, etc. What do I need to do to move on?

I have seen this question a few times and no answer ... I defeted the bandits in Hope River and it restarts that level instead of continuing it. What do I do????
How did you all get so far if it does this??

Hi guys, I hope you can help me with this.

I'm having the same problem as a lot of people here. After completing a mini-game/task like the one when you go after Mr. Wong and Rescue the Mayor, the game starts all over again and you have to build your town all over again.

Do you have to do the tasks in a consecutive order or what? ALso, I'm at the part where I have to check out why the train isn't arriving, and I sent my sheriff west to east to check out the tracks but nothing happens. WHat should I do? Thanks I hope somebody will help us with this =)

I am at Lightening bluff but I am not permitted to build any new buildings (blacksmith or bank) even though I have the money and lumber.
Also, now my gold mine has finally dried up and I can't build a new one. For sure there won't be any new buildings now that there is no mine.
Any suggestions?

I am on the lightening bluff level, have beat the bandits who stopped the train, when offered a ride home to Lightening bluff it starts at the beginning of the level. HELP!!!

I love this game and would not compare it to Virtual Villagers because in my opinion this is much better. I am stuck at the mission where you have to buy the dynamite and blow up the cliff. I can't figure out how to light the dynamite to destroy the RR tracks. I've completed all of the tasks.

Any time I've used dynamite, I didn't have to light it. I just selected it and placed it where I wanted it. The rest happened automatically. Perhaps you are at a place that I haven't been and this is not the case.

On my above message, I wanted to clarify that I have completed everything except building the bank and blacksmith. I "found" a mine but can't erect a mine camp so that I can use it.
I've been stuck in this same place for days. There is nothing left to explore.

I finally got out of Hope River. I just did it over and did not do those bandits. I helped find kidnapped Maureen and I am now on Lightening Bluff. I think you have to do tasks in a certian order or it restarts.

This may be a silly question, but I am in Hope River, and for some reason I can't figure out how to buy anything from my general store. I have enough gold. Could someone help me out? thanks.

i'm having a problem playing the game. after i completed some levels like finding the dynamite and etc, the game does not continue from that place but it goes to the beginning of the game. i stated doing it again and again but i can't get out of hope river whatever i do.
PLEASE HELP!!!

You have to take the deputies to the places where the red arrows were to stop the train.

OK I love the game but I am stuck on a side game where you have to get the old gang together. I have everyone but the last guy. The one where you have to get the 50 wood. I found one stack then I was able to demolish the lumber camp b/c it wouldnt hire me. but I have completely searched the enitre map no wood stacks any where and you cant blow up anything else

Ok, well I figured out my other problem, but now I am completely stuck on Lightning Bluff. I can repair all the buildings except for the farm. I can't build a new farm either. Is that because I have to find the farmer first? I've looked everywhere but can't find him...Can someone help me with this problem? My people keep dying from lack of food eventually! Thanks.

As for finding the farmer, it has been a while since I did that, but I think he was off to the East somewhere in the fog. Have you gone over your entire map? If you find abandoned buildings, try to blow them up. Sometimes people are hiding in there.
I'm sorry to say I am only guessing at this point since I can't honestly remember.

The farmer is somewhere to the East of the map. You have to cross the river using the railroad track and there he is.

At the bandit traitor part, I have already saved the guy, and the red arrow appeared, I built a bridge to get there, and when I tried to go to the red arrow, it wasn't there any more. I've gone back to the saloon, the lady with the exclamation point, and every other building and person, and nothing happens. Any suggestions?

Thanks! KE

Please please please help me. I am going crazy here. How do I get the Sheriff to pay the ransom money to the kidnappers?

Help please, Shelby

Hey there... I think I'm almost at the end of the game... I lost my Sherrif's horse but then found it at the hotel, but when I go to escape through the canyon in the south by the river--am I going to the wrong place or is this a bug? The head gang lady also has the ! mark above her head again and it won't let me click on the "Ok" / "Ready"

Can someone please tell me HOW you get up north to the bandit's saloon? thanks.

"Please please please help me. I am going crazy here. How do I get the Sheriff to pay the ransom money to the kidnappers?

Help please, Shelby

Posted by: Shelby | December 27, 2006 10:13 PM"

When you have the 1K, select the event icon and tell it ok. Sometimes you have to be quick due the resources being used.
John

Re..Can someone please tell me HOW you get up north to the bandit's saloon? thanks.

Use the irrigation tool to relandscape.. once done, it should let you past.

Now, anyone care to let me know how I can find "Simon" to talk to please? . Same level.

Ta, Jon.

Never mind, I figured it out

I'm on the paradise falls level and I've completed all of the tasks except for the "Unlawful Withdrawl" where you have to defend the bank from bandits coming to rob it. They've come several times, and I've defeated them, but I still can't move on. Am I doing something wrong? I've explored everywhere I can and I'm afraid I'm going to run out of resources. Please help!

Please help...I am in Lightning Bluff and can't build a mine and therefor can't build a blacksmith or a bank. I found the gold on the island but I can't build a mine near it or anywhere for that matter. I also am having a hard time picking up whatever it is north of the train by the hole (I've tried irigating, tnt) Thank you for any help.

Kel,

You have to build a mine, not a mining camp, for the gold vein on the island. This costs more than a camp, so you'll have to save up for it. The mine goes on top of the vein, not next to it. You should build mines on your veins whenever possible, because this increases your gold yield, even if you already have a camp.

The bunny gets the shiny item(s) out of the bunny hole. Find Farmer Tim.

Im trying to save the boss in one of the levels but i can;t find him, who is the boss???

Ahhhh! I am in that Paradise Falls place and i have no idea how to sort the water problem! All my people keep starving and its awful! And once when i got back from a side adventure my place got shot to bits by bandits! What do i have to do to win that level???

i need help with the tresure hunt i ned to find the last peice of the map sumthin about 4 red trees ?? PLZ HELP !!!!

Help! I'm in Lighting Bluffs; I have tons of resources, all the buildings/mines/camps, and 50/49 people. I'm stuck on In The Wong. I've defeated all the bandits I could find and I've explored the whole map. I don't have anymore tasks to complete. What am I missing? Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone! I'm on the Paradise Fallen part of Paradise Falls. I am totally stuck now! I've saved the 300x300x30 but now I can't get any gold saved up for the other guy. Is there a mine anywhere? There's not enough lumber to sell and there's no way to get gold other than to sell things. It is pointless building too many bridges because most of the time you only get 50 gold out of the crates when it costs 100 to build the bridge. Any suggestions?

Thanks! Cali

Lisa did you go up north and shoot the Saloon up yet? After you have all the bandits shot shoot the Sallon and your next task will pop up.

the 4 red trees are to the West i believe on an island. They look like a diamond. Not hard to miss if you look at the mini map. Use dynamite to blow them up the map piece is in the middle of them.

Chelle,
I've gone up north and tried to shoot up the saloon, but no little gun icon appears. I've got my lawmen up there, but they won't do their jobs! A bug maybe?

quote: I finally got out of Hope River. I just did it over and did not do those bandits. I helped find kidnapped Maureen and I am now on Lightening Bluff. I think you have to do tasks in a certian order or it restarts.

chelle, can you please tell me the order in which you did the tasks? I've replayed the hope river mission 6 times already & am losing my mind!

Is there any way to turn the doggone tutorial off so that when I restart I don't do the same things over and over?

Never mind! I restarted the level and it worked this time!

I'm stuck in Lightning Bluff. I have finished all the tasks and now all I have to do is defend against Wong's hired Goons but they never seem to come. I read previous threads about shooting the saloon but I don't get the gun icon. Is there still another task that I'm over looking? The only thing left in my task list is the Wong Goons. Help!